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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Sep 27, 2013 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Tony Rice's speech at the IBMA last night (non Dead)

Tony's speech last night upon his induction into the IBMA Hall of Fame.....

Damn.....if this doesn't give you goosebumps, you aren't human. I'm hoping to find the full version.

I was listening to the IBMA broadcast driving home when he came on and had to pull over when he started speaking about how he has been working to recover his voice......

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Sep 27, 2013 5:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tony Rice's speech at the IBMA last night (non Dead)

here's the repaired YouTube link to Tony's speech.

When Tony Rice, Jerry Douglas, and Ricky Skaggs played together in J.D. Crowe's band they were all the shit! This would have been in late 1973 or just after that. For sure they played together in Crowe's band in 1974 and/or 1975. I saw this grouping of J.D. Crowe's band at many bluegrass festivals. They kicked ass! Seldom Scene band was their only serious competition back then.

Before playing in Crowe's band, Ricky Skaggs played with the Country Gentlemen band. I saw him play a couple of times with them. I can't remember about Jerry or Tony in this period, around 1972-ish or early 1973. Before this we have Tony Rice and Sam Bush playing together with the Bluegrass Alliance band. YouTube clip of Sam and Tony playing together in 1971.

Someday I would like to get with David Gans and Fred Bartenstein and talk more about this. Here's some stuff from my Taper's Compendium.

Jer's Newgrass tapes with Dawg • Muleskinner's Newgrass tapes with Dawg • 1973
Bear's tapes of DawgKCET's tapes of Dawg
Tony Rice, guitarist - article by Caroline Wright
• from Listener Magazine, July/August 2002
"When Rice bursts out of a chorus with a startling run in the middle of Mississippi John Hurt's "Louis Collins," you can hear all three musicians [Grisman, Garcia, and Rice] stop and catch their breath." — Seth Mnookin, writing about The Pizza Tapes, on Salon dot com, April 2000
Dawg • Tony • Jer

Superpickers and Tony singing "Me and My Guitar" at The Birchmere:


Superpickers AUD Taped by Med at The Birchmere on April 11, 1989
Source: Beyer M201s > Sony D5 > Maxell MX90 cassettes
Tony Rice - Guitar-Vocals
Sam Bush - Mandolin-Fiddle-Vocals
Béla Fleck - Banjo
Jerry Douglas - Dobro
Mark Shatz - Upright Bass
with special guest, Allison Krauss - Vocals-Fiddle
Me and My Guitar // - vbr mp3, 15:24

WFPL's Elizabeth Kramer interviews Harry Bickel at the Bluegrass Hotel - 4:15, MP3
• the birth of Newgrass Music is discussed
• includes telephone interview with Sam Bush

I contacted former Lazy River bandmembers in early 2008. I was soundman for Bluegrass Alliance and Lazy River in 1975 and 1976. Most of us lived at Bickel's place back then. I was notifiying them I wanted their permission to circulate my SBD recordings of them publicly on the LMA.

At the same time as this, a coffee table book by Bickel was in the works for "The Bluegrass Hotel".

Then a producer came along and "took charge" of The Bluegrass Hotel and made a for-profit project out of it. The musicians committed to playing some gigs together for this. There were performances by Bluegrass Alliance alumni and Newgrass Revival alumni. They played a special gig at IBMA in 2008. It was taped. Then we did some more video shooting for a documentary and a DVD. I was involved with the Bluegrass Hotel project (a.k.a. "Bickel's place"). Here's our cover shot at Bickel's place on Dec 14, 2008. I lived at Bickel's place on and off from 1975 to 1977.

Tony Rice, Curtis Burch, Dan Crary, J.D. Crowe, John Cowan, Sam Bush

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Poster: He Live's Date: Sep 27, 2013 7:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tony Rice's speech at the IBMA last night (non Dead)

good stuff as usual.

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Poster: Monte B Cowboy Date: Sep 28, 2013 11:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tony Rice's speech at the IBMA last night (non Dead)

Light Into Ashes's Grateful Dead Guide about Garcia's Record Collection provides a great synopsis of "Garcia’s listening history over the years – with many omissions" and one huge understatement. LiA makes it easy for me to connect things together. He writes in his essay:
When Garcia studied a record, he really studied it: “I wasn’t playing guitar so much, I’d picked up the five-string banjo in the army. I listened to records, slowed them down with a finger, and learned the tunings, note by note.” [58] Blair Jackson writes, “Jerry said he spent hours listening to records slowed down to 16 rpm to learn solos off them.” [59] David Nelson, who was in one of Jerry’s groups, also recalls, “We used to slow records down or play with the same track on a record over and over again to learn things.” [60]

McNally writes, “Marshall also lent Jerry a copy of Flatt & Scruggs’ ‘Foggy Mountain Breakdown,’ and he fell in love with it…. [In summer ‘61] Garcia had acquired a portable phonograph, and he spent the summer studying Elizabeth Cotten-style guitar, as well as Flatt & Scruggs.” [61]

Bluegrass was becoming his main love, and over the next couple years, the banjo became his primary instrument. Garcia said of the banjo that he was drawn to “the sound of the instrument, and then the fire, the speed and all that. I was attracted to the intensity of it, really. And I was drawn to that incredible clarity – when something is going along real fast and every note is absolutely clear. That, to me, was really amazing – the Earl Scruggs instrumentals…the Mercury album that’s got ‘Foggy Mountain Breakdown’ on it and ‘Pike County Breakdown.’ I just couldn’t believe the sound of it. It was just startling.” [62]

Of banjo players, Garcia said that Earl Scruggs was “the number one, primo influence” – but he also listed Don Stover, Allen Shelton, Ralph Stanley and JD Crowe. “Those are my favorite banjo players. I think there’s something about [three-finger] rolls – you know in those days, pre-Keith banjo style, you either played rolls, or else there were guys who played single-string stuff like Don Reno and Eddie Adcock. I preferred the kind of problem-solving thing of trying to figure out how to make melodies work out of rolls.” [63] (Don Stover played with Bill Monroe and the Lilly Brothers; Allen Shelton was with Jim & Jesse McReynolds; Don Reno was in Reno & Smiley; and Eddie Adcock was in the Country Gentlemen.)

Garcia also saw Bill Monroe’s band down at the Ash Grove in 1963 with a new banjo player, Bill Keith. Sandy Rothman recalled, “Garcia reacted to Keith’s playing immediately… From that point on I didn’t hear Jerry work as hard on any other banjo technique. With great diligence he set to work mastering the entire fretboard, ‘Keith-style.’” [64]

In case anyone missed "it"
– 'Bill Keith was the man!' –
that's what Jer 'said'


Again, here is Bill Keith on YouTube playing with David Grisman, Clarence White, Peter Rowan, and Richard Greene in the Muleskinner band in early 1973 on KCET's tapes of Dawg.


The Keith style of playing the 5-string banjo emphasizes the melody of the song. Also known as the "Melodic" or "Chromatic style", it was first developed and popularized independently by Bobby Thompson and Bill Keith in the early 1960s. It is used primarily by bluegrass banjoists, though it can be applied to virtually any genre. Most banjoists who play Keith style do not use it exclusively, but integrate it as one aspect of their playing, a way of adding spice to the more common 3-finger style of Earl Scruggs.

A distinct advantage of melodic style is the ease of playing fiddle tunes using the melody verbatim while maintaining a right hand technique in line with Scruggs-style. Accomplishing the same goal in single string style often requires a different right hand approach. While at times the thumb may be used in a manner inconsistent with a banjo roll-based style, the "cascading" effect of the roll is still present in many examples of melodic style playing (especially with the bombastic descending runs, popular in the 1970s). [source: Keith style on Wikipedia]

Here is an mp3 of Clarence White's electric guitar playing with them on Muleskinner Blues. Wow! This is the best-kept secret I can tell you.

This post was modified by Monte B Cowboy on 2013-09-28 18:23:18